This looks like the future…
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:06 am
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Re: This looks like the future…
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:58 am
We're officially behind a Group of Five team in NIL deals. Let that sink in.
Re: This looks like the future…
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:54 am
SMU a leader in paying players (legally)? I guess they just pulled out the old playbook, huh.
Re: This looks like the future…
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:05 pm
It is more the present than the future. Schools that have alumni that care to see their former school rise in the ranks of athletic success will step forward to do the same as SMU and others. It will also go beyond the alumni and sink into the consciousness of the business community in which those schools operate that it can be beneficial to them as well if the local sports teams are known for leading and winning instead of being cellar dwellers of their league. State schools will have an obvious advantage in that regard because of a wider appeal and fan base, but a city like Nashville (or Dallas in the SMU case) should benefit as well.
Re: This looks like the future…
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:16 pm
Pulled out and leaning into it: https://www.texasmonthly.com/arts-enter ... -trans-am/
Re: This looks like the future…
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:31 pm
This may make a school like SMU in a major market appealing to say the PAC conference. If their home attendance wasn’t comparable to Vandy’s they would already be in the Big 12
Re: This looks like the future…
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 1:10 pm
You gotta go with your strengths...AuricGoldfinger wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:16 pmPulled out and leaning into it: https://www.texasmonthly.com/arts-enter ... -trans-am/
Re: This looks like the future…
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:44 pm
Re: This looks like the future…
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:58 pm
This is what I've thought will kill us all along. Not millions for superstars but across the board dough for every recruit. Sure, we'll come up with something, but it will be dwarfed by what the teams we need to compete with will do.
Re: This looks like the future…
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:30 pm
When your school (SMU) is ranked 68th in the US News rankings of national universities -- far behind two in-state rivals (Rice, Texas) and tied with a third (Texas A&M) -- some alumni WILL focus on athletic success to puff out their chests. Vanderbilt may be known as a cellar dweller in its league -- but it's also universally acknowledged as a pretty damned good school, tied with one Ivy League school and ahead of two others.coachinwaiting wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:05 pm It is more the present than the future. Schools that have alumni that care to see their former school rise in the ranks of athletic success will step forward to do the same as SMU and others. It will also go beyond the alumni and sink into the consciousness of the business community in which those schools operate that it can be beneficial to them as well if the local sports teams are known for leading and winning instead of being cellar dwellers of their league. State schools will have an obvious advantage in that regard because of a wider appeal and fan base, but a city like Nashville (or Dallas in the SMU case) should benefit as well.
As for benefitting their hometowns,I daresay SMU is less popular, even athletically, in its hometown than VU is in its. Average attendance at SMU games in pre-Covid 2019 was 23,633, in a county of 2.6 million people, compared to Vanderbilt's 26,288, in a county of 715,000.
It's no wonder SMU is focused on increasing its athletic success. What else do they have.
Re: This looks like the future…
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:20 pm
Everything you say about the 2 schools is true. Unfortunately, NIL for academics isn't the issue. Gameday attendance may be anemic for both football programs, but it is likely far greater than could be expected to witness the SAT exams.FayetteDore wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:30 pmWhen your school (SMU) is ranked 68th in the US News rankings of national universities -- far behind two in-state rivals (Rice, Texas) and tied with a third (Texas A&M) -- some alumni WILL focus on athletic success to puff out their chests. Vanderbilt may be known as a cellar dweller in its league -- but it's also universally acknowledged as a pretty damned good school, tied with one Ivy League school and ahead of two others.coachinwaiting wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:05 pm It is more the present than the future. Schools that have alumni that care to see their former school rise in the ranks of athletic success will step forward to do the same as SMU and others. It will also go beyond the alumni and sink into the consciousness of the business community in which those schools operate that it can be beneficial to them as well if the local sports teams are known for leading and winning instead of being cellar dwellers of their league. State schools will have an obvious advantage in that regard because of a wider appeal and fan base, but a city like Nashville (or Dallas in the SMU case) should benefit as well.
As for benefitting their hometowns,I daresay SMU is less popular, even athletically, in its hometown than VU is in its. Average attendance at SMU games in pre-Covid 2019 was 23,633, in a county of 2.6 million people, compared to Vanderbilt's 26,288, in a county of 715,000.
It's no wonder SMU is focused on increasing its athletic success. What else do they have.
Re: This looks like the future…
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:38 pm
Never said NIL for athletics was an issue, nor suggested that anyone would want to watch anyone take their SAT. Only giving a reason why SMU might want to focus on football success because it doesn't have much else to tout. (Maybe the infamous death penalty?)coachinwaiting wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:20 pmEverything you say about the 2 schools is true. Unfortunately, NIL for academics isn't the issue. Gameday attendance may be anemic for both football programs, but it is likely far greater than could be expected to witness the SAT exams.FayetteDore wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:30 pmWhen your school (SMU) is ranked 68th in the US News rankings of national universities -- far behind two in-state rivals (Rice, Texas) and tied with a third (Texas A&M) -- some alumni WILL focus on athletic success to puff out their chests. Vanderbilt may be known as a cellar dweller in its league -- but it's also universally acknowledged as a pretty damned good school, tied with one Ivy League school and ahead of two others.coachinwaiting wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:05 pm It is more the present than the future. Schools that have alumni that care to see their former school rise in the ranks of athletic success will step forward to do the same as SMU and others. It will also go beyond the alumni and sink into the consciousness of the business community in which those schools operate that it can be beneficial to them as well if the local sports teams are known for leading and winning instead of being cellar dwellers of their league. State schools will have an obvious advantage in that regard because of a wider appeal and fan base, but a city like Nashville (or Dallas in the SMU case) should benefit as well.
As for benefitting their hometowns,I daresay SMU is less popular, even athletically, in its hometown than VU is in its. Average attendance at SMU games in pre-Covid 2019 was 23,633, in a county of 2.6 million people, compared to Vanderbilt's 26,288, in a county of 715,000.
It's no wonder SMU is focused on increasing its athletic success. What else do they have.
Btw, Alabama ranks 148th on the Best National Universities rankings - tied with Ole Miss for 10th among the 14 existing SEC schools.
But hey, it's all about the gridiron, huh?
Re: This looks like the future…
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:14 pm
NIL is all about the gridiron and basketball, in some cases. The article that started this thread was about what NIL is causing schools to do to help raise the level of their athletic programs, nothing more.FayetteDore wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:38 pmNever said NIL for athletics was an issue, nor suggested that anyone would want to watch anyone take their SAT. Only giving a reason why SMU might want to focus on football success because it doesn't have much else to tout. (Maybe the infamous death penalty?)coachinwaiting wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:20 pmEverything you say about the 2 schools is true. Unfortunately, NIL for academics isn't the issue. Gameday attendance may be anemic for both football programs, but it is likely far greater than could be expected to witness the SAT exams.FayetteDore wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:30 pm
When your school (SMU) is ranked 68th in the US News rankings of national universities -- far behind two in-state rivals (Rice, Texas) and tied with a third (Texas A&M) -- some alumni WILL focus on athletic success to puff out their chests. Vanderbilt may be known as a cellar dweller in its league -- but it's also universally acknowledged as a pretty damned good school, tied with one Ivy League school and ahead of two others.
As for benefitting their hometowns,I daresay SMU is less popular, even athletically, in its hometown than VU is in its. Average attendance at SMU games in pre-Covid 2019 was 23,633, in a county of 2.6 million people, compared to Vanderbilt's 26,288, in a county of 715,000.
It's no wonder SMU is focused on increasing its athletic success. What else do they have.
Btw, Alabama ranks 148th on the Best National Universities rankings - tied with Ole Miss for 10th among the 14 existing SEC schools.
But hey, it's all about the gridiron, huh?
I'm glad that you have academic rankings to tout, if you want to do that in lieu of supporting athletics, but this is a football forum and you are here, I would have assumed for discussion of football.