How Many Have Canceled season Tix?

[egbertsouse]

You do realize that the Pfizer vaccine has had FDA approval for those 16 and older since August. Does that change your mind about the Pfizer vaccine?

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 021-06-01/

So FDA approval isn't the issue you made it out to be??

From the link you provided (and it's several months old):
"However, the group also said data from another database -Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD) - did not show that rates of myocarditis or pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination differed from expectations. The VSD has data from nine healthcare organizations and can be used to compare vaccinated populations to unvaccinated ones.

Dr. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, said that parents should still vaccinate their kids because of the known risks of COVID-19, including multi-system inflammatory syndrome.

"This issue of a transient myocarditis associated with a vaccine is at the moment a theoretical and unproven risk," Offit said. "So I think that in the world of trying to weigh relative risks, the disease is a greater risk."

The European Medicines Agency (EMA) said last week that heart inflammation after receiving the Pfizer vaccine had been no cause for concern as such incidents were similar rate to those in the general population. It added at the time that young men were particularly prone to the condition."

Most any medical treatment or vaccine has risks associated with it. The question is are those risks greater or less than going untreated/unvaccinated. For the COVID-19 vaccines the balance is clearly in favor of being vaccinated.

[cjdore]

You do realize that the Pfizer vaccine has had FDA approval for those 16 and older since August. Does that change your mind about the Pfizer vaccine?

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 021-06-01/

So FDA approval isn't the issue you made it out to be??

From the link you provided (and it's several months old):
"However, the group also said data from another database -Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD) - did not show that rates of myocarditis or pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination differed from expectations. The VSD has data from nine healthcare organizations and can be used to compare vaccinated populations to unvaccinated ones.

Dr. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, said that parents should still vaccinate their kids because of the known risks of COVID-19, including multi-system inflammatory syndrome.

"This issue of a transient myocarditis associated with a vaccine is at the moment a theoretical and unproven risk," Offit said. "So I think that in the world of trying to weigh relative risks, the disease is a greater risk."

The European Medicines Agency (EMA) said last week that heart inflammation after receiving the Pfizer vaccine had been no cause for concern as such incidents were similar rate to those in the general population. It added at the time that young men were particularly prone to the condition."

Most any medical treatment or vaccine has risks associated with it. The question is are those risks greater or less than going untreated/unvaccinated. For the COVID-19 vaccines the balance is clearly in favor of being vaccinated.

Egbert if you received the Pfizer vaccine and are happy with your decision I am happy for you. But for me, my body my choice. Now back to basketball discussions.

[commadore]

You do realize that the Pfizer vaccine has had FDA approval for those 16 and older since August. Does that change your mind about the Pfizer vaccine?

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 021-06-01/

So FDA approval isn't the issue you made it out to be??

From the link you provided (and it's several months old):
"However, the group also said data from another database -Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD) - did not show that rates of myocarditis or pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination differed from expectations. The VSD has data from nine healthcare organizations and can be used to compare vaccinated populations to unvaccinated ones.

Dr. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, said that parents should still vaccinate their kids because of the known risks of COVID-19, including multi-system inflammatory syndrome.

"This issue of a transient myocarditis associated with a vaccine is at the moment a theoretical and unproven risk," Offit said. "So I think that in the world of trying to weigh relative risks, the disease is a greater risk."

The European Medicines Agency (EMA) said last week that heart inflammation after receiving the Pfizer vaccine had been no cause for concern as such incidents were similar rate to those in the general population. It added at the time that young men were particularly prone to the condition."

Most any medical treatment or vaccine has risks associated with it. The question is are those risks greater or less than going untreated/unvaccinated. For the COVID-19 vaccines the balance is clearly in favor of being vaccinated.

My question is how many have died from myocarditis? How many have died from Covid? There is your answer all packaged up in two sentences.

[MrMemorial]

Information for Dr. Ivermctin...

From FOX NEWS

99% of hospital admissions were among those not fully vaccinated
Only 0.92 percent of deaths were result of breakthrough infections in fully vaccinated patients

https://www.foxnews.com/health/covid-19 ... vaccinated

[MrMemorial]

Information for Dr. Ivermctin...

From FOX NEWS

99% of hospital admissions were among those not fully vaccinated
Only 0.92 percent of deaths were result of breakthrough infections in fully vaccinated patients

https://www.foxnews.com/health/covid-19 ... vaccinated

Bay-Bay says "heck friggin' YES!!" to ivermectin!!

[VUinFL]

Bay-Bay says "heck friggin' YES!!" to ivermectin!!

[/quote]

Is the dog's name really Bay-Bay or is that short for something?

[egbertsouse]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 021-06-01/

So FDA approval isn't the issue you made it out to be??

From the link you provided (and it's several months old):
"However, the group also said data from another database -Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD) - did not show that rates of myocarditis or pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination differed from expectations. The VSD has data from nine healthcare organizations and can be used to compare vaccinated populations to unvaccinated ones.

Dr. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, said that parents should still vaccinate their kids because of the known risks of COVID-19, including multi-system inflammatory syndrome.

"This issue of a transient myocarditis associated with a vaccine is at the moment a theoretical and unproven risk," Offit said. "So I think that in the world of trying to weigh relative risks, the disease is a greater risk."

The European Medicines Agency (EMA) said last week that heart inflammation after receiving the Pfizer vaccine had been no cause for concern as such incidents were similar rate to those in the general population. It added at the time that young men were particularly prone to the condition."

Most any medical treatment or vaccine has risks associated with it. The question is are those risks greater or less than going untreated/unvaccinated. For the COVID-19 vaccines the balance is clearly in favor of being vaccinated.

Egbert if you received the Pfizer vaccine and are happy with your decision I am happy for you. But for me, my body my choice. Now back to basketball discussions.

You do realize that you started this thread?

[egbertsouse]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 021-06-01/

So FDA approval isn't the issue you made it out to be??

From the link you provided (and it's several months old):
"However, the group also said data from another database -Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD) - did not show that rates of myocarditis or pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination differed from expectations. The VSD has data from nine healthcare organizations and can be used to compare vaccinated populations to unvaccinated ones.

Dr. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, said that parents should still vaccinate their kids because of the known risks of COVID-19, including multi-system inflammatory syndrome.

"This issue of a transient myocarditis associated with a vaccine is at the moment a theoretical and unproven risk," Offit said. "So I think that in the world of trying to weigh relative risks, the disease is a greater risk."

The European Medicines Agency (EMA) said last week that heart inflammation after receiving the Pfizer vaccine had been no cause for concern as such incidents were similar rate to those in the general population. It added at the time that young men were particularly prone to the condition."

Most any medical treatment or vaccine has risks associated with it. The question is are those risks greater or less than going untreated/unvaccinated. For the COVID-19 vaccines the balance is clearly in favor of being vaccinated.

My question is how many have died from myocarditis? How many have died from Covid? There is your answer all packaged up in two sentences.

Again, for the COVID-19 vaccines the balance is clearly in favor of being vaccinated.

See MrMemorial's post above and the following.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02740-y

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110737
"RESULTS
Among more than 2.5 million vaccinated HCO members who were 16 years of age or older, 54 cases met the criteria for myocarditis. The estimated incidence per 100,000 persons who had received at least one dose of vaccine was 2.13 cases (95% confidence interval [CI], 1.56 to 2.70). The highest incidence of myocarditis (10.69 cases per 100,000 persons; 95% CI, 6.93 to 14.46) was reported in male patients between the ages of 16 and 29 years. A total of 76% of cases of myocarditis were described as mild and 22% as intermediate; 1 case was associated with cardiogenic shock. After a median follow-up of 83 days after the onset of myocarditis, 1 patient had been readmitted to the hospital, and 1 had died of an unknown cause after discharge. Of 14 patients who had left ventricular dysfunction on echocardiography during admission, 10 still had such dysfunction at the time of hospital discharge. Of these patients, 5 underwent subsequent testing that revealed normal heart function.

CONCLUSIONS
Among patients in a large Israeli health care system who had received at least one dose of the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine, the estimated incidence of myocarditis was 2.13 cases per 100,000 persons; the highest incidence was among male patients between the ages of 16 and 29 years. Most cases of myocarditis were mild or moderate in severity. (Funded by the Ivan and Francesca Berkowitz Family Living Laboratory Collaboration at Harvard Medical School and Clalit Research Institute.)"
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110737

It is not clear to me if the incidence of myocarditis found in the vaccinated is higher than expected to occur normally in the absence of vaccination. The higher incidence of myocarditis in young males is typical.

[MrMemorial]

Bay-Bay says "heck friggin' YES!!" to ivermectin!!

Is the dog's name really Bay-Bay or is that short for something?
[/quote]

It's a nickname that stuck after we took that picture when he was a one year old pupper.

He has a different "official" name registered with the microchip company.**

**Please, no political jokes about the microchip? OK?

[commadore]

So FDA approval isn't the issue you made it out to be??

From the link you provided (and it's several months old):
"However, the group also said data from another database -Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD) - did not show that rates of myocarditis or pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination differed from expectations. The VSD has data from nine healthcare organizations and can be used to compare vaccinated populations to unvaccinated ones.

Dr. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, said that parents should still vaccinate their kids because of the known risks of COVID-19, including multi-system inflammatory syndrome.

"This issue of a transient myocarditis associated with a vaccine is at the moment a theoretical and unproven risk," Offit said. "So I think that in the world of trying to weigh relative risks, the disease is a greater risk."

The European Medicines Agency (EMA) said last week that heart inflammation after receiving the Pfizer vaccine had been no cause for concern as such incidents were similar rate to those in the general population. It added at the time that young men were particularly prone to the condition."

Most any medical treatment or vaccine has risks associated with it. The question is are those risks greater or less than going untreated/unvaccinated. For the COVID-19 vaccines the balance is clearly in favor of being vaccinated.

My question is how many have died from myocarditis? How many have died from Covid? There is your answer all packaged up in two sentences.

Again, for the COVID-19 vaccines the balance is clearly in favor of being vaccinated.

See MrMemorial's post above and the following.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02740-y

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110737
"RESULTS
Among more than 2.5 million vaccinated HCO members who were 16 years of age or older, 54 cases met the criteria for myocarditis. The estimated incidence per 100,000 persons who had received at least one dose of vaccine was 2.13 cases (95% confidence interval [CI], 1.56 to 2.70). The highest incidence of myocarditis (10.69 cases per 100,000 persons; 95% CI, 6.93 to 14.46) was reported in male patients between the ages of 16 and 29 years. A total of 76% of cases of myocarditis were described as mild and 22% as intermediate; 1 case was associated with cardiogenic shock. After a median follow-up of 83 days after the onset of myocarditis, 1 patient had been readmitted to the hospital, and 1 had died of an unknown cause after discharge. Of 14 patients who had left ventricular dysfunction on echocardiography during admission, 10 still had such dysfunction at the time of hospital discharge. Of these patients, 5 underwent subsequent testing that revealed normal heart function.

CONCLUSIONS
Among patients in a large Israeli health care system who had received at least one dose of the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine, the estimated incidence of myocarditis was 2.13 cases per 100,000 persons; the highest incidence was among male patients between the ages of 16 and 29 years. Most cases of myocarditis were mild or moderate in severity. (Funded by the Ivan and Francesca Berkowitz Family Living Laboratory Collaboration at Harvard Medical School and Clalit Research Institute.)"
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110737

It is not clear to me if the incidence of myocarditis found in the vaccinated is higher than expected to occur normally in the absence of vaccination. The higher incidence of myocarditis in young males is typical.

Don't get me wrong...I am agreeing with you!

[egbertsouse]

My question is how many have died from myocarditis? How many have died from Covid? There is your answer all packaged up in two sentences.

Again, for the COVID-19 vaccines the balance is clearly in favor of being vaccinated.

See MrMemorial's post above and the following.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02740-y

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110737
"RESULTS
Among more than 2.5 million vaccinated HCO members who were 16 years of age or older, 54 cases met the criteria for myocarditis. The estimated incidence per 100,000 persons who had received at least one dose of vaccine was 2.13 cases (95% confidence interval [CI], 1.56 to 2.70). The highest incidence of myocarditis (10.69 cases per 100,000 persons; 95% CI, 6.93 to 14.46) was reported in male patients between the ages of 16 and 29 years. A total of 76% of cases of myocarditis were described as mild and 22% as intermediate; 1 case was associated with cardiogenic shock. After a median follow-up of 83 days after the onset of myocarditis, 1 patient had been readmitted to the hospital, and 1 had died of an unknown cause after discharge. Of 14 patients who had left ventricular dysfunction on echocardiography during admission, 10 still had such dysfunction at the time of hospital discharge. Of these patients, 5 underwent subsequent testing that revealed normal heart function.

CONCLUSIONS
Among patients in a large Israeli health care system who had received at least one dose of the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine, the estimated incidence of myocarditis was 2.13 cases per 100,000 persons; the highest incidence was among male patients between the ages of 16 and 29 years. Most cases of myocarditis were mild or moderate in severity. (Funded by the Ivan and Francesca Berkowitz Family Living Laboratory Collaboration at Harvard Medical School and Clalit Research Institute.)"
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110737

It is not clear to me if the incidence of myocarditis found in the vaccinated is higher than expected to occur normally in the absence of vaccination. The higher incidence of myocarditis in young males is typical.

Don't get me wrong...I am agreeing with you!

. Sorry about that.

[BEATUT]

Are there other SEC schools with this same vaccine policy?

[Starkiller]

Are there other SEC schools with this same vaccine policy?

You mean public schools in the southern states? Doubt it…

[MrMemorial]

Are there other SEC schools with this same vaccine policy?

NC State has quite an extensive vaccination policy for students. Remember them? Baseball?

https://healthypack.dasa.ncsu.edu/care- ... nizations/

So, that baseball coach can go pound sand.