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Why allow immigrants from a land of poverty?

Postby EllistonVU » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:53 pm

Why would a well-off nation want immigrants from a place where a million people died of hunger? Where a famine called "dry rot" caused havoc. Where homelessness became rampant during the disaster? Where corruption made it even harder to get any food at all to keep family members from starving? And then Typhus became widespread to make things even more desperate and worse. Plus cholera and smallpox. And then diphtheria and tuberculosis. And then intestinal parasites. What a "5hithole" it was.

So. Anybody out there of Irish descent? And support the disease in the White House?



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Re: Why allow immigrants from a land of poverty?

Postby WestCoastDore » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:23 am

EllistonVU wrote:Why would a well-off nation want immigrants from a place where a million people died of hunger? Where a famine called "dry rot" caused havoc. Where homelessness became rampant during the disaster? Where corruption made it even harder to get any food at all to keep family members from starving? And then Typhus became widespread to make things even more desperate and worse. Plus cholera and smallpox. And then diphtheria and tuberculosis. And then intestinal parasites. What a "5hithole" it was.?


While the current immigration quota system biases more towards poor countries ($hitholes), you are correct that Trump is trying to encourage larger quotas for immigrants from higher developed countries such as Norway (very poor choice on his part. India would have been a better choice, but the press would have probably ignored that much like they are ignoring his remarks regarding increasing Asian immigration).

Unfortunately, the press and Mr. Top Liberal Senator Durbin are once again preaching to their sheep that this just proves them 'ther' Republicans are racist. Sigh.... as you pointed out, they should be using the anti-republican propaganda that conservatives hate poor people.

Well, at least for now, the women abusing, sexist label has been removed from the liberal's propaganda attacks towards conservatives.

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Re: Why allow immigrants from a land of poverty?

Postby Doreknox » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:36 am

WestCoastDore wrote:
Unfortunately, the press and Mr. Top Liberal Senator Durbin are once again preaching to their sheep that this just proves them 'ther' Republicans are racist. Sigh.... as you pointed out, they should be using the anti-republican propaganda that conservatives hate poor people.


Unfortunately for you and your argument, Sen. Lindsey Graham agrees with Durbin's opinion that Trump is a racist.

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Re: Why allow immigrants from a land of poverty?

Postby WestCoastDore » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:51 am

Doreknox wrote:
WestCoastDore wrote:
Unfortunately, the press and Mr. Top Liberal Senator Durbin are once again preaching to their sheep that this just proves them 'ther' Republicans are racist. Sigh.... as you pointed out, they should be using the anti-republican propaganda that conservatives hate poor people.


Unfortunately for you and your argument, Sen. Lindsey Graham agrees with Durbin's opinion that Trump is a racist.


You got a source for that related to this incidence?

Or are you simply extrapolating based on Graham confirming the usage of "$hithole"?

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Re: Why allow immigrants from a land of poverty?

Postby EllistonVU » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:01 am

Doreknox wrote: Sen. Lindsey Graham agrees with Durbin's opinion that Trump is a racist.


As do some of the others, you know, the few republicans who actually have more spine than the average jellyfish.


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Re: Why allow immigrants from a land of poverty?

Postby geeznotagain » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:45 am

EllistonVU wrote:
Doreknox wrote: Sen. Lindsey Graham agrees with Durbin's opinion that Trump is a racist.


As do some of the others, you know, the few republicans who actually have more spine than the average jellyfish.


Aren't some jellyfish PRICKily?

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Re: Why allow immigrants from a land of poverty?

Postby EllistonVU » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:08 pm

Jellyfish have no brain, bones or heart according to oceanography scientists. They are considered invertebrate because they lack a spine or backbone of any kind.

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Re: Why allow immigrants from a land of poverty?

Postby WestCoastDore » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:31 pm

EllistonVU wrote:
Doreknox wrote: Sen. Lindsey Graham agrees with Durbin's opinion that Trump is a racist.


As do some of the others, you know, the few republicans who actually have more spine than the average jellyfish.


Are these few Republicans using Trump's $hithole description of Haiti as justification for their opinion that Trump is a racist?

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Re: Why allow immigrants from a land of poverty?

Postby EllistonVU » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:51 pm

That and the other 5 decades of trump racism. Plus all the other --ism's he is guilty of.

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Postby Titans309fan » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:58 pm

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/12/opinion/trump-racist.html

No one except Trump can know what Trump’s private thoughts or motivations are. But the public record and his behavior are now abundantly clear. Donald Trump treats black people and Latinos differently than he treats white people.

And that makes him a racist.

Is it possible to defend some of his racially charged statements by pointing out that something other than race might explain them? Sure. Is it possible that he doesn’t think of himself as a racist who views white people as superior to nonwhite people? Yes.

But the definition of a racist — the textbook definition, as Paul Ryan might say — is someone who treats some people better than others because of their race. Trump fits that definition many times over:

• Trump’s real-estate company was sued twice by the federal government in the 1970s for discouraging the renting of apartments to African-Americans and preferring white tenants, such as “Jews and executives.”

• In 1989, Trump took out ads in New York newspapers urging the death penalty for five black and Latino teenagers accused of raping a white woman in Central Park; he continued to argue that they were guilty as late as October 2016, more than 10 years after DNA evidence had exonerated them.

• He spent years claiming that the nation’s first black president was born not in the United States but in Africa, an outright lie that Trump still has not acknowledged as such.

• He began his 2016 presidential campaign by disparaging Mexican immigrants as criminals and “rapists.”

• He has retweeted white nationalists without apology.

• He frequently criticizes prominent African-Americans for being unpatriotic, ungrateful and disrespectful.

• He called some of those who marched alongside white supremacists in Charlottesville last August “very fine people.”

• He is quick to highlight crimes committed by dark-skinned people, sometimes exaggerating or lying about it (such as a claim about growing crime from “radical Islamic terror” in Britain). He is very slow to decry hate crimes committed against dark-skinned people (such as the murder of an Indian man in Kansas last year).

• At the White House yesterday, Trump vulgarly called for less immigration from Haiti and Africa and more from Norway.

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Postby WestCoastDore » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:29 pm



So another opinion piece by a liberal progressive writer accusing Trump of being a racist. As i stated earlier, accusing Republicans of being racist has been fairly standard anti-Republican propaganda for the last several years.

However, as the OP stated, underdeveloped countries such as was Ireland and currently is Haiti are $hitholes. While I won't argue that Trump's vulgar comments are less than presidential, they are not racist. You assume they are racist because that's what you've been fed. In other words, guilty by association.

They do show a lack of concern for the tired, the poor, the huddled masses yearning to breathe free trying to escape their $hitholes. I don't agree with that and support an open and free border. If we can't have that, then let's at least have fair legal immigration program that's doesn't look the other way as the economic and political winds blow. Continuing with this racist propaganda banter, will not accomplish that.

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Re: Why allow immigrants from a land of poverty?

Postby vebiltdervan » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:57 pm

Senators Perdue and Cotten, falsely backing up Trump's "I never said that" lie after three days, just fully earned the 'spineless jellyfish' epithet issued earlier in this thread. This is behavior straight out of Orwell's '1984'. Whatever Big Brother says most recently is the truth; previous sayings do not exist.

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Postby BILTMORE » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:13 pm

WestCoastDore wrote:


So another opinion piece by a liberal progressive writer accusing Trump of being a racist. As i stated earlier, accusing Republicans of being racist has been fairly standard anti-Republican propaganda for the last several years.

However, as the OP stated, underdeveloped countries such as was Ireland and currently is Haiti are $hitholes. While I won't argue that Trump's vulgar comments are less than presidential, they are not racist. You assume they are racist because that's what you've been fed. In other words, guilty by association.

They do show a lack of concern for the tired, the poor, the huddled masses yearning to breathe free trying to escape their $hitholes. I don't agree with that and support an open and free border. If we can't have that, then let's at least have fair legal immigration program that's doesn't look the other way as the economic and political winds blow. Continuing with this racist propaganda banter, will not accomplish that.


Are you pretending that Trump never did or said those things?
That's an unbelievable list.
Google Trump + shithole.
The entire world views the entirety of his actions he's racist. Are they in on the "liberal media conspiracy" too?
If so, that's a lot of people for George Soros to pay off.
(badap!)

Trump could put on a white sheet and burn a cross on the WH lawn, and you conservatives would squeal "NO RACIST! NO RACIST! YOU'RE THE RACIST!"

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Re: Why allow immigrants from a land of poverty?

Postby EllistonVU » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:26 pm

EllistonVU wrote:Jellyfish have no brain, bones or heart according to oceanography scientists.


Add your own punchline about trump here.

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Re: Why allow immigrants from a land of poverty?

Postby geeznotagain » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:44 pm

EllistonVU wrote:
EllistonVU wrote:Jellyfish have no brain, bones or heart according to oceanography scientists.


Add your own punchline about trump here.


Okay. Trump is a ******. So are those who average more than 2 posts per day bitching about his *****-ness.

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Re: Why allow immigrants from a land of poverty?

Postby EllistonVU » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:41 pm

I know you are but what am I

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Re: Why allow immigrants from a land of poverty?

Postby EllistonVU » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:46 pm

geeznotagain wrote:. Blah-blah-blah re:number of posts


Hmmmmm... why does it say you average almost 15 posts/day?

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Re: Why allow immigrants from a land of poverty?

Postby admin » Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:39 am

I don't think he's a racist. He's just very insensitive. He doesn't think before he speaks. I heard him tell the young son of an African American who was visiting him in the white house, "Someday you could be President." A true racist would never say something like that. Yes, he's said crude things about some blacks and Mexicans but he's also said disparaging things about plenty of whites too. He's equal opportunity in his disparagements. Look what he said about John McCain. I'm liking some of the stuff he's doing to get the economy going and protect American but he's really a buffoon communication wise.
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Re: Why allow immigrants from a land of poverty?

Postby Matheta » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:19 am

It is so easy to throw a label at someone, and all that is needed is repeating it.

And I would guarantee there is not one person posting that Trump is a racist who.is not racist.

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Postby AtrumEtAureum » Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:31 am

admin wrote:I don't think he's a racist. He's just very insensitive. He doesn't think before he speaks. I heard him tell the young son of an African American who was visiting him in the white house, "Someday you could be President." A true racist would never say something like that. Yes, he's said crude things about some blacks and Mexicans but he's also said disparaging things about plenty of whites too. He's equal opportunity in his disparagements. Look what he said about John McCain. I'm liking some of the stuff he's doing to get the economy going and protect American but he's really a buffoon communication wise.


Strong post except for what do you mean protect American?



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